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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:25 PM

Čista provala....neznam...kako razumno biće može vjerovati u nešto tako.....Već duži niz godina ljudi ubijaju pare ovakvim najavama....To će se desiti al nema tog čovjeka koji zna kada....Ljudi nebudite naivci....Uživajte.....I na to nemislite....Nije vaše da mislite o budućnosti zemlje već da živite....
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:06 AM

Најбољи облик медиокритета - сви су чули за то, нико није сигуран, свако даје своје претпоставке biggrin.gif

Иначе, нема краја света.

Ево и првог разлога зашто је хајп о томе већ доста дуго.

1. Хијероглифи и симболи - у античким народима се метафора користила више него ли солидна језичка структура. Симболи и знакови су ти који указују не само на једну већ на више ствари. Захваљујући арогантним антрополозима који згрћу паре на ''својим објављеним књигама'' (па и може им се, амерички је то народ) и њиховим констатацијама као и лошем преводу старих списа уместо ''крај ере'' или ''епохе'' добијамо ''крај света''. Свет илити Ера се често односило на једну те исту реч, али потребно је разумети да је народ Маја веровао у циклусе. С астролошке перспективе и знања могу рећи да ''крај ере'' звучи апсолутно коректно обзиром да у следећем циклусу од 2050. година излазимо из корупције и обмане (у виду банака и религија чији се утицај најјаче осетио током средине Ере, 1100. година када су на власт дошли темплари који су комбинација оба). Појавом електрицитета се већ може рећи да смо ушли у ''ново доба'' које за свој циљ има ''одлазак у висине'' илити ''одлазак у небо'' и то би требало да се најјаче осети током 3100. године када би се начинио први масовни долазак на другу планету, односно први стабилан живот у свемиру, што се апсолутно поклапа с сагледавањем тога колико технологија напредује из дана у дан.

2. Ефекат ''рекла-казала'' који доноси с собом људе који су чули, који дижу вест у небеса и користе дату вест како би оправдавали своја ''натприродна чула'' илити сензоре за смак света. Сваки пут када доживе Deja Vi одмах мисле да су претрпели катаклизму универзума. Ово је најраспрострањеније у лењим медијима и људима који ово упијају к'о ненормални не схватајући да су то само вести (актуелности, сензација), а не права истина. И, наравно, узимајући у обзир ''Нибиру'', која доноси астролошко значење капије, користе то као изговор за другу планету. На конту тога се појави и нуспродукт као и масовна продаја књига у којима свако тврди да зна ''неку истину''. Исто је било и за LHC пројекат.

3.Маје нису предвиделе смак света већ крај Ере, једног животног циклуса. Људи су ти који погрешно протумаче хијероглифе, односно симболе. Археолози и поготово антрополози дају себи много за право да представљају сопствена мишљења о симболима као актуелне чињенице. У много случајева метафора, која је иначе врло битан начин комуникације античких народа (поготово у круговима мудраца) је стављена у неки други план, а то је велика грешка.

Е САД, да малчице подстакнем људе на размишљање те да заједно пробамо да ово решимо :

НАСА је признала да постоји ''десета планета'' након великог хајпа.

http://science.nasa..../29jul_planetx/

Постоје велике спекулације да се велика планета ''Нибиру'' пиближава Земљи и да је утицала, великом мером, на насилан преокрет полова током пар тренутака. То је забележено у свим великим центрима који се баве сеизмологијом, односно магнетосфером.
За следећи клип морам да напоменем да се већина животиња, које живе у јату (посебно птице), оријентишу помоћу магнетосфере и веома су везани за исту. Научници верују да њихов вид може да види магнетосферу, што не би било далеко од истине. Исто је и с одређеним рибама које препливају дуг пут, као и с крабама током парења. Ипак, дате животиње су масовно умирале баш када се догодио поремећај те размере у магнетосфери.



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"NASA declare unstable solar storms are likely to affect our planet from 2010 to 2012
NASA has formally verified this for that subsequent couple of many years we would notice a large improve in solar storms straight in the Sun. Those solar winds might begin that yr, and final nicely in the yr 2012. Just what would be feasible results of the solar storm? Following a group of professionals met in the Space Climate Enterprise Forum in Washington DC, and talked about the results of approaching solar storm action.That debate concentrated much more about the protection of our satellite and communication techniques, and discovering a method to keep track of every brand-new storm since it gets to Earth in the Sun.

Dr Fisher has been cited to possess stated throughout that innovative conference and left a comment on what NASA are checking prospective winds coming in the sun, making use of their possess team of satellites- developing an earlier alert technique of sorts. Although he did include a number of professionals are likely to begin choosing a reaction to any kind of upcoming storm action."

Повезујемо с причом о Мајама. За ''Крај света'' наглашавају ''велику ватру с неба'' која долази ''од Бога''. Није потребно много времена да се закључи да се ради о Сунцу...АЛИ...такође ту стоји податак да се превод с Хијероглифа на енглески не може сматрати валидним потпуно... Крај света је често само ''крај Ере'', у овом случају крај ере Риба и улазак у еру Водолије.


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The purpose of this document is to discuss the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius in order to understand the influences of these two sidereal ages on our day-to-day lives.

Actually, astrology reveals to us the influence celestial bodies have on our personal destinies. They also exert a great influence on our lives as a global community.

On the cosmic level, we know that twelve constellations cut across the zodiac. These make up the natural zodiac; they do not move and they always remain in the same place around the zodiac.

However, because of a particular movement of the Earth's pole, the Sun crosses the Equator at a slightly different point every year. With the passing years, this point shifts from one degree approximately every 72 years and shifts signs approximately every 2,156 years. This movement is called precession of the equinoxes. A complete cycle lasts around 25,868 years. At the end of each cycle, there is complete synchronisation between each sign and each constellation.

Some people debase astrology, claiming that astrological signs do not exactly correspond with constellations. Nonetheless, as we have just described, this is a normal phenomenon of great importance that can be explained from the astrological viewpoint.

Therefore, every 2,156 years, a new age begins. From 498 AD to the year 2,654, the spring equinox occurs in the Pisces constellation. Consequently, we are technically in the Age of Pisces. It should be pointed out, however, that an age's influence is strongly felt around 500 to 800 years before the exact juxtaposition of the signs and constellations. Therefore, the coming of Christ into this world inaugurated the Age of Pisces.

In this document, we briefly describe the Age of Pisces, along with the Age of Aquarius that is already influencing us as it is about to dawn upon us soon.

The Age of Pisces

The symbol of fish indeed serves to interpret the Age of Pisces. This age's influence has lasted for at least two thousand years. Here are some examples.

Christ named his disciples "Fishers of Men", alluding to fish, to fishing.

He was born, the Bible says, of a Virgin, the Virgo being the opposite sign of Pisces. Let us also point out that the sign of Virgo is also associated with the wheat head, immaculately white. Indeed, Christ nourished the multitude of people who followed Him with fish and bread.

Some Western religions (Catholicism, among others) have been spread by celibate priests who wanted to remain chaste and pure as the wheat head. These priests devoted themselves to the worship of the Virgin. This very clergy enjoined us to eat fish instead of meat on Fridays.

The pope still wears a mitre, which is in the shape of a fish.

The sign of Pisces is a sign of sacrifice, charity, mercy, compassion and pardon. The entire Christian religion therefore strives in this way. The annual religious period that corresponds to the sign of Pisces is Lent, a period of sacrifice.

The fish was also the symbol of the early Church. Its shape was used in the catacombs in order to identify the first Christians. In this respect, "Ichtus", a Greek word, represented a fish. The first Christians made an ideogram out of it: that is, they took each letter of the word "I-c-h-t-u-s" to form other words related to Christ, "Iesus Christus Theou Uios Sôter". This expression can be translated into "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Saviour".

According to the Bible, Christ transformed water into wine. It was a miraculous event. The sign of Pisces is a water sign.

Sitting with His disciples at His last supper, He took bread and wine and said: "This is my body, this is my blood". Since then, bread and wine are served as sacrifice during mass, and the priest receives communion under both kinds; during mass, he elevates wine and the white, pristine host, along with the chalice.

Christ often pronounced His teachings alongside a lake. Remember the miraculous draught of fishes: there again, a multitude of fish was caught by His disciples.

Christ was baptized by John the Baptist in a lake. Today, newborn babies are still baptized with water. According to Tertullian, a Latin priest who lived in the second century after Jesus Christ, a Christian born of baptismal waters is compared to a small fish, to the image of Christ Himself. For Tertullian, baptism is as essential to a Christian as water is to a fish.

Also to be mentioned here is the Holy Water, available in churches, with which Christians cross themselves. Again, the importance of water is obviously present in the Church's liturgy; this is easily understandable because the sign of Pisces is a water sign. Still today, priests sprinkle Christians who accompany them with Holy Water.

The sign of Pisces is associated with Neptune, with faith and divinity. During the Age of Pisces, all humanity was invited to believe in God. The lives of martyrs, strong believers, were ended in the worst tortures, as a proof of their faith.

The sign of Pisces is also associated with the sacred sites and sanctuaries that attract crowds of Christians who come to pray. Finally, a sign of divinity, of faith and also of heresy, the sign of Pisces is associated with religious conflicts and crusades, which notably occurred in the Middle Ages. The "Enemies" were called "infidels", in other words, "those who were not of our faith". Christians then fought against enemies under the pretense that they did not share their religious convictions. These crusades were headed by pious, faithful, well-intentioned knights, all keyed up by religious fervour.

Since the Age of Pisces is not yet over, we still feel its effects: in fact, religious wars are still raging on in the world, although this phenomenon will progressively disappear as we are influenced by the Age of Aquarius.

The sign of Pisces also corresponds to the twelfth house of the zodiac, house of prayer, of reclusion. During the Age of Pisces, we witnessed the creation of monasteries: for a greater part, the lives of monks and members of numerous religious communities consisted of meditation and praying to God. There were even cloistered religious communities whose members refused any contact with the outside world, preferring to devote themselves to spiritual activities.

The influence of the sign of Pisces, which represents reclusion, has also manifested itself in other similar concepts. For instance, purgatory or hell are both reclusive areas where the soul cannot communicate with God.

In fact, the sign of Pisces is the symbol of forgiveness, of secrecy, of reclusion. This is why, for centuries, Christians have confessed their sins, in secret, in a reclusive place (a confessional). It was the sacrament of pardon.

The sign of Pisces is also associated with mercy: this is why Christians often asked God to have mercy on them. The "Kyrie Eleison" was in fact sung ("Lord, have mercy upon us") at mass on Sundays.

Let us also point out that the feet are the body parts associated with the sign of Pisces, therefore symbolizing pilgrims on their journeys and missionaries who travelled to far-away lands to spread Christian faith. To undertake a smaller-scale pilgrimage in their own area, people could always pray at the twelve Stations of the Cross in churches. Besides, on Maundy Thursdays, a special ceremony is devoted to the washing of the feet of a dozen of the faithful by the Pope and by priests in their own parishes.

The Age of Pisces was, in fact, a very spiritual one. The Pope is recognized as a spiritual leader, infallible, to whom we have to obey and in whom, along with God, we have to believe.

Finally, let us point out that Venus, the planet of love, is exalted in the sign of Pisces: this is an influence of the message of love from Jesus Christ who died on the cross to redeem us, out of His love for us. He also taught us to love God with all our hearts and to love our neighbour as ourselves.

The Age of Aquarius

As previously seen, technically speaking, around the year 2,654, we will experience the Age of Aquarius to its maximum. Until then, we will feel its influence increasingly.

It is an age characterized by technical progress, by technology, by spectacular inventions: printing, media, medication, internal combustion engines, automobiles, airplanes, rockets, electricity, electric lights, water heaters, telephones, radios, televisions, movies, photography, photocopiers, fax machines, watches, clocks, radars, telecommunications, Internet, information super-highways, satellites, high-tech household appliances, voice mail, answering machines, microwave ovens, computers, compact discs, CD-ROMs, magnetic cards, smart cards, automatic teller machines (ATMs), walkmans, stereo systems, tape recorders, video cassette recorders, headphones, projectors and more.

Americans have even sent an astronaut to the moon. Our world no longer has any frontiers. In a certain way, we have gained a particular freedom that transcends the limits of space and time.

The influence of this age has also brought us the atomic bomb, divorce...

Scientists will take over from priests. We are already in a society based upon knowledge, information and communication. Soon, we will come to know real universal fraternity.

The sign opposite Aquarius is the sign of Leo. This indicates to us that we must focus our efforts in the pursuit of excellence, perfection and mutual respect. During the Age of Aquarius, Man will really be the King of Creation, in the image of his Creator.

Our New Challenges

We are currently being influenced by the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius. In fact, we are progressively leaving the Age of Pisces and progressively entering the Age of Aquarius. We are therefore in a position midway between these two astrological ages.

The greatest challenge we will have to face is of a moral order. Indeed, we are leaving a period that lasted two thousand years, during which our spiritual lives were dictated by religious authorities.

The influence of religions will lose ground in favour of personal moral standards. The problem is that we will need to make an effort to develop these new standards, for we will be engulfed in a technological world, as previously seen in the description of the Age of Aquarius. It will not be easy to build new moral standards; they will have to be personal and adapted to the new circumstances of life.

Religious dogma will be replaced by laws. Christian charity intended for the individual will be gradually replaced with services to the population, provided by public service workers. These new services will be controlled by laws and regulations. In short, everything will be provided for, but in a public, secular way. Already, in several countries, health care, social services, education, etc. are provided by the State.

In short, the State will increasingly acquire more importance at the expense of the churches. The State will also increasingly regulate our activities. Morally speaking, we will develop moral standards whose foundations will be based, for instance, on a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Christian symbols (like Holy Water, for instance) will take on much less importance. Already, these days, few people go to Sunday service, and when we are in desperate need for money in order to survive, we increasingly turn first to social welfare, which is provided by the State.

Your Mission on Earth

It is certainly appropriate to ask ourselves why we were born and what our mission is on earth. In this respect, the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius can shed light on this for us. In fact, we are currently in the Age of Pisces, while being influenced by the Age of Aquarius.

The influence of the Age of Pisces invites us to show love, goodness, mercy, compassion and generosity towards our fellow human beings. In this respect, Jesus said to His apostles: "Love your neighbours as yourselves". Moreover, the Lord's prayer encourages us to "ask God to forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us".

What is more, the influence of the Age of Aquarius invites us to show altruism and favour scientific, systematic or technological solutions. Those whose careers will be specialized in these fields will certainly be at an advantage.

The influence of the Age of Aquarius also started at the time of the French Revolution. The popular slogan at that time was "freedom, equality, fraternity", three values that have influenced us since then. In fact, what matters is to establish our freedom in a positive and constructive way, respecting the opinions and rights of others. Equality among humans is another objective to reach, notably in the economic world, which implies everybody having the same advantages and the same purchasing power. Universal fraternity is, finally, another important objective to reach, in order to end wars and conflict among people and nations. Actually, Uranus is associated with the sign of Aquarius. Sir William Herschel, an astronomer, discovered this planet in 1781, a few years before the French Revolution. Uranus itself is a symbol of sudden changes, progress, etc.

In short, these two ages invite us to broaden our souls by showing love towards our fellow human beings and by taking the available scientific and technological means to improve our well-being and comfort. Therefore, Man will fully realize his role on earth by establishing himself as the King of Creation, by fulfilling himself, by being in control of himself and nature.


Такође, у контрибуцији приложеном још и овај линк.

http://science.nasa...._thewatchedpot/

А што се тиче великих соларних олуја и Никола Тесла је писао о истим и донео је адекватну поделу (на моје лично изненађење, као да је познавао астролошке принципе) везану за редослед ратова у односу на године и сунчеву активност.

Иначе, о томе се може и овде прочитати, на брзину

QUOTE ("March 22 @ 2011")
Professor Raymond Wheeler, from the University of Kansas, at first almost stumbled into the frightening data. The connection was initially discovered by noted Russian scientist Alexander Chizhevsky during 1915: solar storms trigger conflict, wars and death. A vortex of death.

Chizhevsky found after intense research that the rise and fall of solar activity—interacting with the earth’s magnetic field—causes mass changes in human’s perspective’s, moods, emotions and behavioral patterns. All are affected by sunspots and solar flares.

Building upon the Russian scholar’s research, Wheeler applied a numerically weighted ranking system during the 1930s to separate wars and even individual battles assessing them on length and severity.

He then correlated the impressive data he’d amassed with the 11-year sunspot cycle.

The results were revealing…and horrifying.

When the 11-year solar cycle peaked, so did human unrest, uprisings, rebellions, revolutions and all-out wars between nations. It was almost as if the intense magnetic upswing directly affected the human brain and drove Mankind into deadly emotional tantrums and frenzied killing sprees.

Assaults skyrocket. Murders increase. And bloody wars and rebellions erupt with a fury across the face of the globe.

Wheeler’s research revealed the pattern spanned human history as far back as 2,500 years.

Solar cycle 22

During 1990 the solar maximum fever pitch initiated skirmishes around the world culminating with Iraq invading Kuwait and the U.S. battling back against Saddam Hussein’s army.

Then, 11 years later, the 9-11 attacks against New York and Washington, D.C were followed by two wars in quick succession: Afghanistan and again Iraq.

According to the 11-year solar cycle, as the sun entered its next active peak during late 2010 the disruptions in the earth’s magnetic field could be predicted to cause unrest, instability, uprisings, outbreaks of war, destruction and mass death once again.

Like clockwork it occurred.

Suddenly the news was filled with rising dissent rearing up in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. It spread to Syria, Libya, Iran and China. Europe was not immune: general unrest arose in the UK and France, Greece had extended riots, Spain felt under pressure, and even the U.S. saw angry mobs rise up in the state of Wisconsin.

Magnetic madness

As the flares increase and the sun becomes more violent, expect greater violence on earth as some go mad.

The pattern is unmistakable. At key points during the solar cycle—from minimum to maximum activity—the geomagnetic field begins to intensify as it comes under bombardment. The triggers are when the activity is accelerating towards the peak, or dropping down towards the minimum.

Much research during the following 70 years has shown that the magnetic field interaction with human’s electrochemically driven brains also affects deep-rooted psychological mechanisms including creating anomalous hormonal swings and even significantly mutated brain wave activity.

The magnetic monster initiates a general mass hysteria and a degree of uncontrollable psychosis.

In other words, the world goes mad.

Solar cycle number 24: Worst possible

Solar Cycle 24 has begun. NASA and other space agencies worldwide have been warning about it. The cycle is predicted to be violent, unpredictable, and may even affect the fragile 21st earth technology.

Expected to surge as much as 50 more than the record-breaking solar cycle 23—that saw X-flares larger than ever witnesses by humans—this monster cycle is calculated to reach maximum intensity from 2011 through 2012.

It’s the worst possible solar cycle at the worst possible time. Expect more wars, more deaths, more countries toppled and populations displaced.

Ad to that grim scenario that fact that much research also has revealed that increased magnetic storms couples with the magnetic pole shift and changing core of the earth will likely lead to natural disasters such as the catastrophe that hit Japan during March 2011, and it’s a veritable witches’ brew of madness, mayhem and mass death.

The disturbing findings of Becker and Freedman

The year was 1963 when another piece of the terrifying puzzle snapped snugly into place. The picture that was forming might as well have been from the depths of hell.

Dr. Robert Becker and his colleague, Dr. Freedman, made an important—if unsettling—discovery. They determined that intense solar activity leads directly to psychotic outbreaks and mass insanity.

Who is Becker? Some far out crackpot?

No.

Dr. Robert Becker was a pioneering researcher and leading expert in the field of biological electricity. Twice nominated for the Nobel Prize, Becker was also a full professor at the State University of New York, and a noted author.

Becker died in 2008 with a warning to the world about the approaching years of 2010 to 2012.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:40 PM

Srecnu 2012 zele vam vase maje biggrin.gifD xD. Zavitlavam se.Neverujem da ce se to desitii po pitanju dali uzivam u prirodnim katastrofama je prosto pitanje! LEPO JE TO GLEDATI ALI PRIRODA SE UNISTAVA I TO NIKAKO NEMOZE BITI DOBRO ALI JE IPAK ZABAVNO ;).gif Ja mislim da je to sto si ti napisao tacno ali ipak ce se nesto desiti... Nemislim u smislu da ce se svet unistiti nego mislim da ce svet ili biti mnogo bogatiji i sa vise opreme i automobilima koji lete (PRIMER) ili ce svet biti siromasniji i bice veca beda ... Ali meni to izgleda kao nova era ili tako nesto.Mislim da ce svet biti jedan korak ispred .
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 02:57 AM

U prvom postu je pomenuto da je najsavršeniji kalendar delo našeg naučnika Ruđera Josipa Boškovića, ali iz jednog razloga nije bio prihvaćen. Ta zamerka je bila to što je on bio "Srbin"

Edited by ShoX, 18 February 2012 - 02:58 AM.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 03:20 AM

QUOTE (ShoX @ Feb 18 2012, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
U prvom postu je pomenuto da je najsavršeniji kalendar delo našeg naučnika Ruđera Josipa Boškovića, ali iz jednog razloga nije bio prihvaćen. Ta zamerka je bila to što je on bio "Srbin"


a da ti sine ne mislis na Milutina Milankovica ciji je kalendar najsavrseniji ikada stvoren i bas zbog toga ga koriste u NASA-i..? posto rudjer nije uradio nijedan kalendar a i btw on je iz dalmacije tako da je hravatske nacionalnosti a nikako srpske..to sto je koleZa kartun pogresio i spomenuo rudjera je druga prica..a da se vratimo na milankovica..razlog zasto nejgov kalendar ne moze da bude prihvacen je bas iz tog sto njegov kalendar, koj usput da napomenem ima tacno izracunata sva pomracenja sunca i meseca do 3ooo-e otprilike, je taj sto on nema prestupne godine tj njemu sve godine traju podjednako tako da ga je nemoguce koristiti u normalne svrhe..
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

Kako si sve lijepo objasnio biggrin.gif

Sad da vidimo dokad cemo izdrzati, koji dan u ovoj godini ce biti koban... zasad se drzimo tongue.gif
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:48 PM

Odahnite: svet će postojati i posle 2012!
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

Heh.
Zodijak se ponovo okrece suprotno.
Cajtgajst je zakon.
Ma mene bas briga. ja cu dvadesetog da se najedem kao covek za svaki slucaj.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:42 PM

Nisam citala sve. Cim sam videla reci: "2012" i "kalendar" bilo mi je jasno o cemu se radi. Sve te price o smaku sveta su gluposti! Ja u to ne verujem! Jos od prosle godine odredjuju datum smaka sveta pa su se nekako uskladili da to bude 2012. godine. Sad ja lepo pitam one koji veruju u smak sveta ove godine: "Kako vi to zamisljate SMAK sveta?". Sve se urusava ka centru Zemlje? Dolaze vanzemaljci? Bljesak i nema nicega? Planeta misteriozno nestaje? Pada neko dzinovsko cudo? Prosvetlite me, ja stvarno ne razumem. Znam samo da planeta ne moze da nestane bez traga a povezivanje prirodnih katastrofa, Maja i 2012. godine je apsurdno. Zemljotresi, erupcije, asteroidi...sve je to bilo i bice jos mnogo godina. A da li ce coveka kao vrste biti to je vec diskutabilno pitanje. Predlazem svima koji veruju u smak sveta da manje razmislaju o kojestarijama a malo vise o tome kako sami unistavaju planetu.
Sta ce biti posle 2012. godine? Ja sam vidovita. Zamisli, 2013!

Edited by Mermaid Melody Sara, 11 May 2012 - 05:48 PM.

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#30 Joda

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nisam citala sve. Cim sam videla reci: "2012" i "kalendar" bilo mi je jasno o cemu se radi. Sve te price o smaku sveta su gluposti! Ja u to ne verujem! Jos od prosle godine odredjuju datum smaka sveta pa su se nekako uskladili da to bude 2012. godine. Sad ja lepo pitam one koji veruju u smak sveta ove godine: "Kako vi to zamisljate SMAK sveta?". Sve se urusava ka centru Zemlje? Dolaze vanzemaljci? Bljesak i nema nicega? Planeta misteriozno nestaje? Pada neko dzinovsko cudo? Prosvetlite me, ja stvarno ne razumem. Znam samo da planeta ne moze da nestane bez traga a povezivanje prirodnih katastrofa, Maja i 2012. godine je apsurdno. Zemljotresi, erupcije, asteroidi...sve je to bilo i bice jos mnogo godina. A da li ce coveka kao vrste biti to je vec diskutabilno pitanje.
Sta ce biti posle 2012. godine? Ja sam vidovita. Zamisli, 2013!


hmmm..a ja verovao da si ti pametna..iz svega napisanog vidim da nisi neki vernik al ajde da ne pokrecem tu temu..elem smak sveta traje krace od treptaja oka..nesto slicno ko kad ugasis tv..samo sto se na planeti desi restart..a da li si ti ikada ista procitala o majanskom kalendaru? koliko je on zapravo tacan? koliko su precizno predvidjena sva pomracenja sunca/meseca, zemljotresi, erupcije vulkana itd..? da li si citala ista o tome..da li znas da su prvi znakovi na kalendaru 2012 zemljotres, mrtve ptice sa nema i navala zmija..procesljaj malo sta se sve desilo u januaru ove godine..zemljotres u japanu, u pensilvaniji je palo jato mrtvih ptica a zmije sirom sveta su pocele slobodno da se setkaju naokolo i da se pojavljuju? slucajnost? ne saro proracun..
elem opste je poznato i pre ovoga da su maje racunale smao ovu jednu eru tj jedan vremenski period i da taj kalendar zapravo nikada nije govorio o Smaku Sveta (koji opet imas u Bibliji, opet verski motiv kao i sam kalendar)..


QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Predlazem svima koji veruju u smak sveta da manje razmislaju o kojestarijama a malo vise o tome kako sami unistavaju planetu.


predlazem tebi opet da sama malo procesljas cinjenice..globalnog zagrevanja je i ranije bilo, ako i topljenja polova i svega ostalog sto mi danas sami sebi pripisujemo..jedino eto te ozonske rupe da navedem kao nesto sto smo mi uradili..ali sve ovo ostalo..bilo a Bogme ce ga i biti i mnogo posle nas..

a inace pocinjes mnogo da zvucis kao oni koji ne citaju nista osim udzbenika..
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#31 Mermaid Melody Sara

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:09 PM

@ Joda
Kad si spomenuo religiju, koliko sam ja obavestena smak sveta predstavlja prestanak postojanja vremena. Isus dolazi medju nas po drugi put i nestaje vreme. Ali da ne duzim o religiji.
Dakle, verujes u smak sveta? U redu, jedan tren a sta posle toga? Sve je gotovo i krecemo ispocetka? U redu, znam da su Maje bile precizne. Sve navedene katastrofe su se desavale i ranije (neke od njih). U proracune ne verujem. Za mene je to samo slucajnost gde su ljudi eventualno povezali splet nekih okolnosti i dogadjaje sa kalendarom Maja i dobili - smak sveta. Ko kaze da ranije tih "smakova" nije moglo da buude i da se ovo ranije nije desavalo? Mozda u praistoriji ili starom veku? Sta ako je on poceo jos od kako su se ljudi pojavili? Neko kaze da se ce ne znam planeta unistiti. Mogu uslovi da se promene pod nekim prirodnim katastrofama i da nastupi neko novo doba kome se covek nece prilagoditi. I dinosaurusi su izmrli. Giganti su nestali a mali i neugledni sisari su preziveli. Isto tako bi i covek mogao da nestane a da prezivi neko mnogo jednostavnije i sitnije bice koje ce moci da se prilagodi. Opet ne vidim kako neko moze da predvidi tacan datum neke ovakve pojave. Ali planeta ne moze da se unisti sama od sebe. Mogu samo da nastupe novu uslovi za zivot. A ljudi i nisu bas pogodni za prezivljavanje. Potreban im je vazduh, voda, hrana itd.

Edited by Mermaid Melody Sara, 11 May 2012 - 06:11 PM.

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#32 Joda

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
koliko sam ja obavestena smak sveta predstavlja prestanak postojanja vremena. Isus dolazi medju nas po drugi put i nestaje vreme.


lose znas

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dakle, verujes u smak sveta?


nadji gde sam to rekao i onda cu potvrditi..to sto branim jedno od mogucih stanovista ne znaci da verujem u nejga..to ti je kao sa matematikom..ti mozes da koristis npr pitagorinu teoremu ali to ne znaci da verujes u nju..a i matematika je na neki nacin religija..

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
U redu, jedan tren a sta posle toga? Sve je gotovo i krecemo ispocetka?


kad budem doziveo prvoj cu da ti posaljem moj elaborat..;).gif

prvo kazes:

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
U redu, znam da su Maje bile precizne.


a odmah zatim:

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
U proracune ne verujem.


sredi misli


QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Za mene je to samo slucajnost gde su ljudi eventualno povezali splet nekih okolnosti i dogadjaje sa kalendarom Maja i dobili - smak sveta.


deep sigh..facepalm..deeper sigh..mozda zato..i samo zato..sto se stvari koje se nalaze u njemu..savrseno poklapaju sa stvarima koje su se desile, opet kao primer navodim pomracenja sunca i meseca..da znas tacne datume..potpuno tacne datume..slucajnost..?


QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ko kaze da ranije tih "smakova" nije moglo da buude i da se ovo ranije nije desavalo?


sve zavisi kako definises smak sveta...za mene je to npr kad dodjem kuci i zateknem prazan frizider..

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mozda u praistoriji ili starom veku? Sta ako je on poceo jos od kako su se ljudi pojavili? Neko kaze da se ce ne znam planeta unistiti. Mogu uslovi da se promene pod nekim prirodnim katastrofama i da nastupi neko novo doba kome se covek nece prilagoditi. I dinosaurusi su izmrli. Giganti su nestali a mali i neugledni sisari su preziveli. Isto tako bi i covek mogao da nestane a da prezivi neko mnogo jednostavnije i sitnije bice koje ce moci da se prilagodi.


sad radis upravo ono sto rade ljudi koji se bave majanskim kalendarom..teoretises..mada odma da ti pobijem teoriju cinjenica da se smak sveta nije desio je taj da well..imamo dokaze nekih ko zna koliko milijardi godina unazad..smak sveta je restart..

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Opet ne vidim kako neko moze da predvidi tacan datum neke ovakve pojave.


na pamet mi pada ona rec koju je moja profesorka solfedja iskoristila da bi nam objasnila "pentolu"..ona rec bre na "M"..ah da..matematika? a dodaj tu i astronomiju i jos mnogo drugih nauka..

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ali planeta ne moze da se unisti sama od sebe. Mogu samo da nastupe novu uslovi za zivot.


sad me nasmeja slatko..nasa planeta je velika bomba koja otkucava..zamisli da jezgro poludi i da jednostavno odluci da eksplodira..mislim da to spada pod SAMOUNISTENJE..
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#33 Mermaid Melody Sara

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:33 PM

Zadjosmo u duboku raspravu. Mrzi me da odgovaram na sve zivo sto si napisao.
To sto govorim kao neko ko ne cita nista drugo sem udzbenika...pa, nemoj mi zameriti trenutno oko mene i jesu samo udzbenici. Glupavi standardi za biologiju i odobreni udzbenici!
To za proracune: verujem Majama da su bile precizne. Ne verujem Amerikancima i njihovim pretpostavkama (ne kazem da su oni sve to povezali) posto vecina gluposti dolazi upravo od njih (primeren dokaz: Pilici bez mozga na farmama)
And, svako ima svoje misljenje. Ja cisto sumnjam u neki smak sveta. Ne mogu se bas povezati hriscanstvo kao najrasprostranjenija religija i Maje koje su imale neke svoje teorije i bogove.
Kako jezgro moze samo da odluci da eksplodira? Koliko ja znam ono nema ni mozak ni svest pa da odlucuje. Sad ako je nestailno ili se nesto s anjim desava, ko zna. Mi zivimo na kori, daleko od toga.
Svasta sam ja cula i procitala, otopljenje leda na polovima, novo ledeno doba, gasenje Sunca, solarna oluja, dolazak vaznemaljaca sa druge planete (Amerikanci rolleyes.gif )...
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#34 c0fi

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:37 PM

Ajde Saro malo da ti posajnim pošto vidim da nisi čitala vest koju sam postavio, evo da citiram sa Monda
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Međutim, na zidovima ruševina u Gvatemali otkriveni su novi zapisi koji pokazuju da Maje, ne da nisu predvidele apokalipsu ove godine, već su, naprotiv, predvedele novi vremenski ciklus.

Inače smaka sveta će sigurno biti (kad tad) i defintivno se slažem sa svime što je Joda napisao smile.gif

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:47 PM

Saro, odakle znas da vanzemaljci ne postoje?
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#36 Mermaid Melody Sara

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:51 PM

To je u redu. Maje su predvidele nesto a kako su to ljudi shvatili - poseba prica. Neko recimo vec sada priprema listu stvari koje treba da uradi, tj. priprema se za smak sveta 2012. godine. Znaci, ispalo je da mozemo da se pozdravimo sa zivotom u decembru. Eto, to je po meni glupost. Maje i glupe narodne mase ne mesam. Oni su kao nebo i zemlja. Kad ja pitam nekoga iz svog okruzenja kako zamislja smak sveta njegov odgovor je: "Kraj. Sve propada u neku pukotinu do centra Zemlje i planeta nestaje". Sad, koliko je moguce da se otvori tolika pukotina i svi propadnemo bas tog famoznog datuma a Zemlu nesto usisa ne znam.

@ SerbianGod
Nisu se pojavili u novembru prosle godine kako su Amerikanci rekli. Ili ne postoje ili su malcice stidljivi. Mozda je pravo vreme da se upoznamo ali nece da nas posete koliko god se o tome pricalo. Mozda smo ih prepali? biggrin.gif

QUOTE (c0fi @ May 11 2012, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Verovatno traže intaligentne oblike života tongue.gif

A ljudi su mislili da su pametna i savrsena bica...toliko o tome. Salu na stranu, svemir je beskrajan prostor (nikad mi nece biti jasno kako) pa sam ja sigurna da tamo negde postoje "vanzemaljci". Novi suncev ili neki drugi sistem nama nedostupan na kome zive stvorenja koja su drugacija ili slicna nama. Za sad cisto sumnjam da se to moze otkriti a na ovim planetama za koje se zna tesko da postoje neki oblici zivota. Po mom misljenju je nemoguce da oni dodju do nas ii mi do njih. Bar za sad. Al posto nauka i njene grane napreduju velikom brzinom, nista nije iskljuceno. Doduse, najverovatnije mi se nece ispuniti zelja da vidim i te cuvene vanzemaljce.

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#37 c0fi

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mozda smo ih prepali? biggrin.gif

Verovatno traže intaligentne oblike života tongue.gif
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To za proracune: verujem Majama da su bile precizne. Ne verujem Amerikancima i njihovim pretpostavkama (ne kazem da su oni sve to povezali) posto vecina gluposti dolazi upravo od njih (primeren dokaz: Pilici bez mozga na farmama)


ja koristim realne cinjenice i nesto sto je argumentovano a ne americke predpostavke al ajde...

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And, svako ima svoje misljenje. Ja cisto sumnjam u neki smak sveta. Ne mogu se bas povezati hriscanstvo kao najrasprostranjenija religija i Maje koje su imale neke svoje teorije i bogove.


svaka religija je koliko toliko slicna i povezana sa drugom tako da ni ovde ne mozes da kazes da si upravu..pogledaj samo grcka i rimska mitologija..imas potpuno iste likove..i onda uzmi hinduizam, hriscanstvo, judeizam opet isti motivi..a da ne pricam slovenska i nordijska mitologija..

QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kako jezgro moze samo da odluci da eksplodira? Koliko ja znam ono nema ni mozak ni svest pa da odlucuje. Sad ako je nestailno ili se nesto s anjim desava, ko zna. Mi zivimo na kori, daleko od toga.


jezgro i jeste nestalno..sta mislis kako dolazi do erupcija? i moja recenica "jezgro poludi" se odnosila bas na to da jednostavno putem nekih reakcija se desi nesto sto je takodje jedan od scenarija koji mogu da se dese..


QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Neko recimo vec sada priprema listu stvari koje treba da uradi, tj. priprema se za smak sveta 2012. godine.


kako mozes da se spremas za nesto sto ce u sekundi potpuno unistiti sve zivo? to sto se taj kalendar uporno pogresno interpretira je druga stvar..majanski Smak Sveta = hriscanski Sudnji Dan


QUOTE (Mermaid Melody Sara @ May 11 2012, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eto, to je po meni glupost. Maje i glupe narodne mase ne mesam. Oni su kao nebo i zemlja. Kad ja pitam nekoga iz svog okruzenja kako zamislja smak sveta njegov odgovor je: "Kraj. Sve propada u neku pukotinu do centra Zemlje i planeta nestaje". Sad, koliko je moguce da se otvori tolika pukotina i svi propadnemo bas tog famoznog datuma a Zemlu nesto usisa ne znam.


kao sto sam rekao pogresna interpretacija

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:20 PM

Evo i ja da se pridruzim i da vam nesto kazem posto ocigledno pricate samo o Bioloziji,Hemiji, Istoriji ... Ako smo mi pravi vernici mi bi trebali da se drzimo biblije a ne nekih gluposti da li postoje vanzemaljci ili ne .Postoje verovatno ali to nije bitno.
Biblija kaze:

Samo Bog svojom voljom moze zaustaviti (unistiti) svet.
Covek svojim zlom unistava svet.


Mislim da je dovoljno ...
Maje mozda jesu dosta pametan narod , ali se ne mogu mesati u Bozje odluke .
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE (Ono Vako @ May 11 2012, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maje mozda jesu dosta pametan narod , ali se ne mogu mesati u Bozje odluke .


i da idalje potoje verovatno bi one rekle isto za naseg boga..
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